Thinking about never ending series reminded me of a discussion I had with some of the peeps at the LA bloggers and authors get together in November.
We were talking about LKH. For the life of me I can’t remember why now, but no doubt it was something very weighty and serious to do with plot and character development.
Anyhoo, we inevitably played truth or dare about who had or hadn’t given up on the Anita Blake sexfest and also got to talking about LKH’s Merry Gentry series.
Me, I liked the Merry Gentry series. It had a consistency to it I thought Anita Blake had well and truly lacked and resulted in my break up with it.
Having said that, I stopped reading Merry Gentry at book 7.
Why? For the simple reason that, for me, the main story arc had ended with the thing which had stopped Merry from doing the other thing being done and dusted.
Finished. Completed. Kaput.
And then book 8 came out…
Me: WTF?! WHY?????????? Nope. This is over and I’m done with it. The. End.
So, have you ever done that with a series? Decided it had ended to your readerly satisfaction before the author obviously thought it had?
Oh, yes indeed! Most notably with LKH. I stopped reading the Merry Gentry series at about the same time you did, and I think I gave up on Anita at book 12 or 13, although my interest had begun to wane around book 9. I've also stopped reading the Stephanie Plum series, which went from fun and silly to annoyingly grating and overly silly. Kelley Armstrong's Women of the Otherworld series stopped being interesting when the core female characters expanded to 8 or so– things lose cohesion with that many narrators!– and even though Jeaniene Frost ended her Night Huntress series relatively quickly, all the back and forth relationship drama between the protags ended it even sooner for me. Once the plot starts getting repetitive it doesn't matter how great the characters are. If I want to reread a book I'll reread that book, not a reincarnation under another title.
I'm still in mourning over LKH and the abrupt sexfest after 10 amazing books.
I have a feeling that Ward needs to end her series soon. She had projected 10 books, but her publisher wants more.
Maybe 5 books of Qhuay getting it on and having adventures together? I can only hope.
LKH, yup – I think I gave up on the Merry Gentry series before you did, because it seemed to be heading the same way Anita Blake did. And I gave up on AB after whatever book it was that covered maybe two hours in which everyone just had sex.
I gave up on Kim Harrison's Rachel Morgan series after I got pissed off about a character dying at the end of one of the books.
I'm getting a bit concerned about the Dresden Files…
Oh I've given up on many a series. I read LKH until I couldn't stand the typos and ridiculous sex fest orgies anymore. I gave up after LKH butchered, utterly butchered the Harlequin. I gave up on Merry Gentry around book 6. I tried, though I didn't like them at all because the sex -was- hot and I liked some of the men. Never liked Merry much.
I also gave up on Stephanie Plum series around book 10 when it occurred to me there's no reason either of these men would want Stephanie and that she'd gotten so annoying and unlikable.
I gave up on JD Robb (sobs) when the same book keeps being repeated over and over again.
I'll hang with series for a while and I think authors will write and cash in on it as long as people buy the books but these go on WAYYY too long in the name of money.
Well, I haven't read any of those. I tried a LKH once, I got bored half way wthrough the first one. However I started a lot of series (well, relatively speaking) when I discovered PNR, Jr Ward, Nalini Singh's Psi, Hmmm, that other one with vamps and fairies and ghosts (brainstall), Sherrilyn Kenyon, probably a couple of others and now that I read m/m I just stopped reading them. Sometimes I read reviews of the books on other sites just to keep up with the storyline, sometimes not. I need one of those spoiler websites so I can just go there and see what happened and be done with it.
I'm a series-a-holic (and thanks to your earlier post, I will be sharing the love at my blog on Wednesday. Feel free to come on over and hate on me. 😉
BUT I am currently experiencing this phemon in a single book!
I am half way through and feel like the story is over and yet 100 pages loom before me… *sigh*
Oh, yeah, I'm in the same boat as Tam – I've mostly stopped reading the non-m/m series, even the ones that hadn't annoyed so that I'd consciously stopped reading them.
I never got into LKH (either series) which makes me kind of glad, especially after hearing all of the complaints and such.
That being said, HI! *waves* I'm sorry I disappeared, but my family's moving to Michigan of all places. I'm not going to be on here much until after that's all said and done.
Can I just say I'm tired? Plus I miss you bunches?
This year I am trying to catch up on all the series I have got behind on. So a very timely post to comment on.
I have a feeling that Anne Bishop may have gone one book to far for me. But I'm waiting for more reviews before making a decision there.
I think in some ways Lynn Viehl had the right idea both about the Darkyn series (ending it after I think seven books, then starting the spinoff Kyndred series which is going in a different direction). And the Stardoc series which is written under S.L.Viehl, finished after I think 10 books.
I used to by series books by LKH, JD Robb, Christine Feehan, Sherrilyn Kenyon, etc. as soon as they were realesed. I've fallen behind on Hamilton and Robb's series. The others I think I've abandoned for good.
I don't know if it was only that the series fizzled for me. Part of the issue was the genres in general fizzled for me and I discovered m/m. I did the same thing with historical romance a few years back. I read certain series religiously, but they fizzled and that's when I moved on to LKH, etc.
I'm still reading the Stephanie Plum books, but only because of the glimpses of Ranger and the absurdity of it all. However, I'm am tiring of the repetition.
Veri word: ranti
Very fitting veri word Eyre.
Lucky for me all these series are not so widely available in NL. And certainly not against a decent price.
So I haven't really read them. I read one Anita Blake and did not like it.
I do read the JR books and I hope she finishes soon. 10 books sounds too much.
I think a lot of those writers don't know how to wrap up a series. The sub plots are getting so intricate that they can't see a way out and just write the next instalment without ending it
Alaina: I gave up on Anita Blake at about book 9 and have also given up on Stephanie Plum. We're like twins. 🙂 Like you, I need some sort of ongoing development otherwise I lose interest. Obviously.
Did you give up on Merry Gentry because you thought the plot had essentially ended with her, erm, getting the thing?
KBC: Did you take part in the JRW chat thing last year? I didn't but saw the updates on Twitter. She said that she has a huge number of books planned in the series including a kind of spin off with a new set of brothers. That totally threw me.
And if Qhuay doesn't get at least one book instead of the planned novella I'm going to be seriously pissed.
Chris: “I gave up on Kim Harrison's Rachel Morgan series after I got pissed off about a character dying at the end of one of the books.”
I gave up on that series at the same time for the same reasons. We are Khris. 😉
Kassa: “I gave up on JD Robb (sobs) when the same book keeps being repeated over and over again.”
*gasp* You did what?! I haven't reached that stage yet, although I have to say that I'm essentially reading the books now more for the crime/suspense story than anything else.
Tam: “I need one of those spoiler websites so I can just go there and see what happened and be done with it.”
*snort* That's actually how I find out if I want to continue with a TV series or not. I get bored and then go to Wikipedia to see what happens. The end. 🙂
Miranda: “I'm a series-a-holic (and thanks to your earlier post, I will be sharing the love at my blog on Wednesday. Feel free to come on over and hate on me. ;)”
LOL. Oh, I'm a series-a-holic too. J D Robb, Kenyon, Patricia Briggs, JRW, etc, etc, and not to mention all the fantasy series I have. Good lord.
“I'm a series-a-holic (and thanks to your earlier post, I will be sharing the love at my blog on Wednesday. Feel free to come on over and hate on me. ;)”
That would be teh suck. Those are the books which are usually DNFs for me.
Chris & Tam: I haven't got to the basically stop reading anything but m/m stage and to be honest I doubt I ever will. There are two many other kinds of genres I read to ever do that. 🙂
Bridget: Hey you. I caught your tweets yesterday and saw that your family was on the move. Pretty exciting, yes.
Lesley: I think it takes a pretty cluey author to recognise that a story arc has come to an end and not to cave to the pressure – internal or external – to continue to write books. I have a great deal of admiration for them. It must be hard to say goodbye to something that you've invested so much into.
“I have a feeling that Anne Bishop may have gone one book to far for me. But I'm waiting for more reviews before making a decision there.”
*sigh* I've heard the rumours but am staying away from the reviews. This is one time that I'd rather find out for myself whether it has gone on too far. Needless to say that I'm hoping it hasn't.
Eyre: “Part of the issue was the genres in general fizzled for me and I discovered m/m. I did the same thing with historical romance a few years back. I read certain series religiously, but they fizzled and that's when I moved on to LKH, etc.”
I think that's the journey a number of m/m readers have taken. As per my comment to Tam and Chris, which I just noticed had a major typo in it *sigh*, I haven't reached the stage where m/m has completely taken over my reading. No question at all that I read a lot of it, but word count wise I think it probably evens out with the other stuff I read at the end of the day.
Ingrid: “I think a lot of those writers don't know how to wrap up a series. The sub plots are getting so intricate that they can't see a way out and just write the next instalment without ending it.”
I think that's an interesting point, Ingrid. You do have to wonder sometimes how the writer's keep track of things and I know from my own experience that there have been times when I've rolled my eyes or thrown a book against a wall because of whopping great big, fat holes in the plot and convoluted timelines. It drives me batshit.
Christine Feehan's Carpathian series….if I see the word 'lifemate' one more time pages will be ripped, growling will ensue, maybe a little book throwing.
Smokinhotbooks: LOL! I have a different word overuse issue with Feehan, and it's in the Carpathian book I read (the first only) and the Drake Sisters' books I read (read a few pages of the last one and decided I was done with the series). Here's my reviewette for Dark Demon – it sums up the issue nicely. 😀
“Pay attention, everyone. This is critical information. If you happen across the phrase 'her feminine channel' in a book, you should throw said book away immediately and apologize to the library later. Trust me on this one.”
Seriously, in one of the Drake Sisters books? She used “channel” or “feminine channel” seven times in three pages. O.o
KC: I think you're getting a little grumpy in your preggers state, hun. You need to start practicing your deep breathing. 😛
Chris: She did?? I have the Drake sisters books. You gotta tell me which one so I can have a looksee.
So much books come to mind – I think Ward books first – I stopped reading ages ago…
Lora Leigh – some of those series could have ended a few books back…
Maggie Shayne – Wings in the Night series -I swear someones need to shot that series dead..
Crimson Spell – I am adding this as I hope it doesn't drag out to the point where all that sweet angst and adventure just goes flat.. like Junjou Romanctica – I still like it, but much of what I love about the book is really in the first few series..
Kris: Emailing you with my best guesses…
EH: The 3rd Crimson Spell hasn't even been released yet in English! LOL. But, yes, like you I hope that it isn't dragged out needlessly.
Thank you for giving me a smile, Kris and commenters. For me, the frequently used Feehan phrase was “lightning whips in the blood” or some such to describe arousal.
Personally, I'm a little puzzled about women giving up other sorts of romance just to read m/m. I still keep up with some of the authors of m/f romance I like. Perhaps that could be a post sometime. Of course, everyone should read what they enjoy.
I have given up on some series, though I'll sometimes stick with a series through twenty or so books. After the first dozen or so books, most series get very repetitive.
I don't think I've been reading the romance long enough to give up yet, but I'm sure I will eventually. There are some series I've “fallen behind” on, which may be my subconscious' way of telling me to move along… 🙂
Not with a series of book noooo, however, ahem, having JUST finished QaF (yes, yes I am slow, but I get there eventually)….I have decided that the last half hour or so of the series DOES NOT EXIST! Yep, my way of keeping Brian/Justin as they should be forevah! End. Of. Story.
See me being happy-lady and not sobbing-with-grief-pissed-at-the world-why-didn't-someone-TELL-me this-shit-ended-WRONG-lady! I am MUCH happier now yes I am 😉
Elain, don't worry about Brian and Justin. They spend a few years apart, run into each other by accident, and get their HEA. How do I know this? I just do, and I'll maim anybody who tries to tell me any different.
Thank GAWD….this is EXACTLY what I was thinking, good to have it confirmed *winks*
I too would hate to have to send out the death squad…takes a lot of time and attention and planning you know?
I love that photo!
And I so wish I had been with you all for that discussion (and the con 🙂 I broke up with both Anita Blake and Merry Gentry last year. Each of the later books (I will confess to enjoying the earlier ones) went…nowhere. Just lots of….waffle and talking around things! Nothing actually happened!
Who else did I give up on last year? Rachel Caine's Weather Warden series. I got so sick of their being a 'the world is about to explode' catastrophe EVERY book and it of course was all to do with the main character. *yawn*
KB/KT – I'm only reading the next BDB book for Qhuay. The two main characters don't interest me in the slightest!
Kassa – I'm currently reading teh 30th In Death book…and I was thinking of breaking up, and then I realised that if I just ignore Eve (who doesn't really change) and Roarke (who is Mr Perfect) then I actually enjoy them 🙂
What is it about this topic that gets me riled?
Emilie: “I still keep up with some of the authors of m/f romance I like. Perhaps that could be a post sometime.”
That's a great idea, Em. It will be interesting to survey readers to see how many people have given up on m/m entirely.
Patti: “There are some series I've “fallen behind” on, which may be my subconscious' way of telling me to move along… :)”
LOL. No doubt. Actually that's how I always know when I'm done with a series; that is, I'm not racing out to the nearest store on release day to buy the latest book.
It will also be interesting to see what happens with your reading habits, Pattie, if you read more m/m romance. You will be our very own guinea pig. 😉
Elaine: What Eyre said. There's actually fan fic out there that deals with Brian and Justin getting together after the end of the series. You should look for it. 🙂
Orannia: “What is it about this topic that gets me riled?”
I think it has to do with a reader becoming invested in a series. Well, it does for me at least. When a series ends up going no where I get pissed off because I have invested time, emotions and, yes, money into the series to what in the end was much dissatisfaction.
I never got into LKH or Anita Blake or Christine Feeham (I read 1 or maybe 2 Carpathian books and thought 'meh'). I've read the first 3 or 4 Women of the Underworld books but didn't feel inspired to continue.
In fact the only UF series I'm still following is the JR Ward BDB series and Jennifer Rardin's Jazz Parks series (which is soon to come a close anyway after the tragic death of the author).
I stopped reading the In Death series at book 7 cos I got bored.
Hmmmm, looking at the above I think I must just have a very low boredom threshold or something because I don't continue a series if the previous book or so hasn't grabbed me. I just don't see the point in spending money reading books that I don't find interesting any more.
It's true that I read more m/m books than m/f now, but I will still read an m/f book, especially UF, fantasy or historical when I fancy a change. Then again, I don't see anything wrong with choosing a genre and sticking to it. I read pretty much only m/f historical romances for 4 years and was quite happy doing that :).
Jenre: “Hmmmm, looking at the above I think I must just have a very low boredom threshold or something because I don't continue a series if the previous book or so hasn't grabbed me.”
Now that you mention that, Jen. I recall a similar discussion where you talked about having book-five-itis. 😛
orannia: Oh yeah, I gave up on the Weather Warden series, too. I stopped caring what happened to the main female character.
I have a lot of respect now for authors who write the 3-5 books that their story arc requires and then end the series, instead of being lured on and on and on by the money (see Janet Evanovich's Stephanie Plum series).
I actually gave up on the Merry Gentry series a couple of books before the (fake) resolution because I got bored with all the sex– honestly, what's the point of having multiple partners in bed with you if they're not also going to be getting it on?–but about a year or two later I saw the last couple at the library and was in a reading lull, so I thought, sure, why not? I was actually satisfied with the resolution, but then, lo and behold, another book!
Honestly, it's OK for series to end when the characters and the story have run their course. If you're a creative person you'll come up with something fun and new to write and your fans will stick with you. It's almost like authors and publishers don't trust readers to be able to move on, despite the fact so many do of their own accord!
However, for those of you, Kris and Chris, who gave up on Kim Harrison's Rachel Morgan series after the death of a certain sexy blond (I'm guessing that's who you're referring to. I threw the book across the room and cried when that happened), I encourage you to consider giving the later books a chance. The main story arc has really taken some exciting turns, and, I think, we're getting to the core of what Harrison's ultimate plan for the series is. I know she doesn't intend to continue it forever and has a definite resolution in mind for Rachel. Anyway, that's my sense of things, although I know not everyone will agree!
Well I'm late to the party, as per usual. Ha. But I HAVE to get my opinion in here *g*
I read book 1 of Merry Gentry, got bored and didn't pick up any more (sorry sorry!!). Anita Blake? I LOOOVED for a long time. Short, cranky, coffee-addicted heroine who raises zombies for a living and kicks bad guy ass left, right and center? Hells yeah. I was all over that shit. I even liked how she was such a prude and contradicted herself all the damn time. That just made her seem more real to me. Then she caught Jean-Claude's vampire horniness virus or what-the-fuck-ever that was supposed to be and started fucking anything with a dick and pfft, that was that. She lost me. That whole thing was obviously an excuse to get more sex in the books. The one and only time I liked that ploy was when Anita did it with Jason, because Jason is AWESOME.
Now if she brings back Edward, I will pick up that book whether it makes any damn sense or not, because I am an Edward fangirl. Not sparkly vampire Edward; stone cold assassin Edward. Rawr.
I think that's the only series I've deliberately given up on. I only read the 1st book in the Dune saga, but that doesn't really count. The rest of those books after the original Dune should not have ever existed.
Chris: “I have a lot of respect now for authors who write the 3-5 books that their story arc requires and then end the series…”
Word, although I can see how it would be tempting, not to mention the pressure, of continuing a series.
Alaina: “If you're a creative person you'll come up with something fun and new to write and your fans will stick with you. It's almost like authors and publishers don't trust readers to be able to move on, despite the fact so many do of their own accord!”
I agree. An example for me is that although I gave up on the Stephanie Plum series I grabbed up and gobbled JE's new UF series. I'll be continuing with that one… for the moment. 😉
I'll take your word about the Rachel Morgan series. Maybe I'll get back to it, but only if I find out that something really cool happens like her ending up with Trent.
Ally: I was exactly the same. I loved AB's kick-arseyness and then the sex thing happened and then… blech. I loved the Jason thing too. I also loved the bitefest on Nathaniel. That was hot.
If Edward comes back maybe he will kill her dead??
She said hopefully.
I did a post about being puzzled about women giving up reading straight romance altogether. Much of it is me reflecting about my reading habits and history, but I'd love to get comments from those who only read m/m romance now, when they used to read a lot of m/f romance. http://neyronrose.livejournal.com/226181.html
But, when LKH brought Edward back in The Harlequin (I think it was that one) she basically made him useless. Despite loving Edward, it was such a disappointment that I don't think I could go back to the series even if Edward were featured heavily. >o(
Re: Rachel Morgan: well, I doubt she'll end with Trent (although he's my absolute favorite character!) she will end up with someone who is equally gray in the morals area. And, if it teases your interest at all, here's a Trent related SPOILER:
She does make Trent her familiar for awhile. Now he's absolutely terrified of her, and is more determined to control her than ever.
Emilie: Cool! I posted the link to your post on Twitter too. 🙂
Alaina: I never read up to Harlequin, but it is really disappointing to hear about the portrayal of Edward.
Trent is terrified you say… well, well, well. How very tempting.
I like early Anita Blake. She reminds me of a friend of mine (who has sat several panels with LKH and introduced herself as “the OTHER short, curly haired vampire writer from St. Louis”)
I read Anita all out of order, and still haven't read them all. I read 3,4,5,8,10,11 and am working on 12.
That's all our library has. 5, Bloody Bones, was excellent. I swore off after 10, but 11 sucked me in with Anita actually working and not having as much sex or angst. 12 is….dragging.
I understand there are 8 more. They can go jump. I saw the cover for Flirt. So much wrong I can't even begin…
Angelia: I thought early Anita Black was terrific. The character herself was complex but still engaging, and the plot was action packed, dark urban fantasy with slamming sexual tension. And then… yeah. Not so much.
I just looked up the cover for Flirt. At first glance it seems a little in poor taste; however, I don't know anything about the story.
Okay, here's a veriword: Cerejel. Sounds like jellied brains.
Reformed seriesaholic, sigh. Sorry in advance.
I concur with most of you on the Anita/Merry thing. Anita just got crazy after a while (though I still just want to give a few of the guys–Nathaniel, Jason–a happy m/m ever after, hmmm slash possibility?). Merry I felt should have naturally concluded with #7. Why it didn't I have no idea.
Um, Kenyon, all I can say is I was about done when she moved away from the DH into the gods/dreamers etc, and then Acheron just ruined it for me. Couldn't finish.
KMM…I just LOVED the Fever books..until #4. DNF.
Lora Leigh? Both of her major series should have stopped after the first handful and gone out on a high note.
Would love for Jean Auel to finish the last Ayla book so I can have closure already.
Feehan, same as what y'all have said. I was SICK over that last Drake sisters one, SICK! I couldn't believe she did that to her. Ugh. *having a moment* Carpathians I used to enjoy but has thinned to the point of pointlessness. I did like the Ghostwalkers but she went off on some random characters there instead of moving on to ones we already knew, so I lost interest.
Now that I'm writing and editing, I really have little time for reading for pleasure, but I do most of it in the e-rom genre, and a lot of m/m. So that's why I said reformed. I don't go snap them up as soon as they're out anymore, not even close. Sometimes I'll pull them off the library new/bestsellers shelf if I see them, but I feel rather let down.
I agree with whoever said they admire authors who wrap up the series arc in a realistic number of books instead of going on and on. As a writer, I do understand that when you spend as much time as they do worldbuilding and developing secondary char, you want to make use of them. But the old adage, always leave them wanting more is tried and true for a reason.
~rant over, so sorry!! topic near and dear apparently~
Devon: I didn't make it very far into the last Drake Sisters book before I decided hell no…
@Chris, I think I'm still damaged from it. I skipped over most of it to get to the end and even then it wasn't worth it.
Devon: Jason and Nathaniel… *thud*
Ok. Where was I again?? 😛
I chose not to read Kenyon's what I call sequeries. Her dreamers stuff. I stick to the Darkhunters, but I have to say I was really disappointed with the last book. It just didn't live up to my expectations. *sigh*
KMM's Fever series I stopped at book 3.
I'm with you on Lora Leigh but I am still reading them even though the timeline is fucked up. I'm hanging out for the daughter's story whose name I can't even remember. *need more coffee*
The Drake sisters. Yes, that last one was killer. *sigh* And did you know that there is another one out? It's sitting in my TBR at the moment. I think it my be the Russian's brother?? Who's name I can't remember either.
And now I'm going to definitely get myself that second cup of coffee.
Rowr… Is all I have to say about J&N. *fans Kris* You okay down there?
If I do it, I'll link you first and dedicate it to you. 🙂
Yep, I wanted the daughter's story too, and there was that almost epilogue scene with them in the hospital room where I figured we were heading into their story. Then NOTHING. For more than one book. Arrgh!
It probably is the brother, didn't they have each other in their crosshairs and recognize each other during the rescue? Anyway, I just can't go there. Can't.
The only series I can say I gave up on is the JRW side Angel series. I read the first book, and I just didn't like it. At all. Which is sad, because I wanted to like it because I LURVE BDB (even though I HATED Phury's book). I hope JRW doesn't drag out the series too long. All she really needs to write is a book for Tor and one for the Qhuay after Lover Unleashed and the series should be done. Everyone will be mated. But of course she has created some miscellaneous characters we don't really care about to continue the series.
From the sounds of it, LKH is not the series I should read and I'm kinda glad I never started reading it after seeing what everyone is saying about it. Also, I haven't started the Carpathian series either and I'm on the fence about that (since I have the first 3 in my TBR piles). I do love Kenyon's books and I have stuck with the series so far. But she is probably another one that should think about ending her Dark-Hunter series soon. It's at least 20 books long by now.
I haven't read Frost's side Huntress series yet either. I have plans to read them at some point. But since I heard it's not as good as Cat & Bones series, I'm not in a hurry to read it.
I HATE reading the series to the end, and the end just pisses you off. I think I wasted my reading time on the series for this ending? That's how I felt about the Riley Jensen series. I liked some of the characters. I didn't like the female character, but I was compelled to read it, because I keep thinking it would get better. Instead I kept getting pissed off. But still I read it. The characters never did what I wanted them to do, but I keep hoping at some point they would get their head out of their asses and do what I wanted! lol It kinda ended like I liked but man, I wanted to scream at the characters.
I read both m/m and m/f books. I don't mind the long series as much. I try not to read series books back to back. It helps if I space them by at least a month or two before reading the next in line.
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Ferishia, Phury's book was the most disappointing of that series. I'm still a BDB addict, but I hated that angel series. The first book in it was a DNF for me, and I probably only had about 30 pages left in it when I put it down. I kept thinking I'd go back to it, but I have to be honest with myself and say that I won't.
Eyre, I had high hope for the angel series, that's why I finished it. But I doubt I will read any of the others. I am kinda tempted b/c I heard that the second book was a little better than the first.
Phury's book was such a disappointment. I don't know what she was thinking. It wasn't his character, becase I luv Phury, I just hated his book. He's a warrior for peats sake, and she makes him a wuss? A drug addict? *sighs* But you have to read the book because of the side stories with Qhuay and JM and Xhex that have a bunch of info that if you skip it, you will miss some of the plot for the next book.
Devon: If you build the J/N fan fic, I will c- erm… 😛
Ferishia & Eyre: “… if you skip it, you will miss some of the plot for the next book…”
Fuck it. I'm still skipping. Drove me mental that most of John Matthew's book had all this shit associated with other characters that I wasn't interested in reading.
Except for Qhuay.