Young people AND the adults, who were obviously part of the whole thing. Gah.
It is a shame what kids do to other kids these days. Knowing allll what they… Having all the knowledge they could possibly have at their disposal.. And yet they are still f*ck-tards!!
My 16yr tells me enough to make me want to beat the sh*t out of some kids and their parents for what they do today. Thank GOD above I raised her right that she is friends with everyone and treats them with the same respect she wants to be treated with. She has (I guess you would say) gay friends of either way. She is going to prom with a friend of hers that is in a wheelchair. I have taught her that you treat others like you want them to treat you. And when someone does something nasty to you.. beat the sh*t out of them. No.. not really the last line… but she handles herself with a grace that makes me proud.
So to see this go on and know that f*cking parents are out there helping their kids do this kind of sh*t blows me away… I mean grow the hell up!!!! If you are uncomfortable because you are around someone who is different than you… then just move or something.. ((Oh and ps.. evaluate your own damn self)) Then JUST GROW THE F*CK UP!!! Do NOT discriminate!! UGH.. sorry.. wrong day to start this up.Okay stopping now…
Delow is my word… and that describes how I feel about some people they are too f*cking de-low = pond scum.
Okay.. on a cheery note.. IT IS FRIDAY and someone better have a drink readily available for me…. somewhere…
Have a great day… =)
Sigh. Another Sigh. I don't get it? We teach history in most school right? So wouldn't you think we would learn from our past mistakes…
To treat someone differently simply due to their sexual orientation brings out the Hulk in me.
WOW, I dont even know what to say. 😦
Horrible isn't it?!!!! I've been blogging about this too. I've got the HRC petition over on my blog to support her that is going to the school board.
There is a poor boy going thru the same thing right now…and a whole campaign AGAINST him on facebook. This is unbelievable!
Seems Cecile and I are on a similar wave length. Where were the parents in this? If I knew this was in my child's plans, to go to a secret prom, she would NOT be going. EVER. If I found out after the fact (assuming she lied to me and said the other girl was invited when she wasn't) she'd be very very sorry. I would go public with my apology on behalf of my child and make it clear she would be punished for such treatment of another person, no matter WHY it happened.
The fact that the other parents likely thought this was a good idea tells you something about why the kids act the way they do. I am furious on that young woman's behalf (and the other kids who were rejected) and really disappointed in parents who condone this. I feel it reflects badly on parents as a whole, I'm NOT like them. The perpetuation of this kind of biggoted behaviour goes on and on. Those parents are likly younger than me, many in mid-30's, they are in their 70's when prejudice was considered a good thing. I'm just baffled sometimes, totally baffled and sad.
I can't believe it. I can't fucking believe it.
I debated on whether or not to comment on this and well I decided to put my 2 cents in as well. I was raised in the south, Mississippi to be exact, and anyone raised there can say that there are good things about the south, but there are A Lot of things not so good about it. Until I joined the Navy and started to mingle with all walks of life all around the world and realized that my world view was skewed by my upbringing I was just as bad as these students; and saying that, unfortunately bigotry, racism, and hate were daily food for thought, funnily enough from not just my mom and neighbors, but from the church and schools as well. Honestly, as sad as it is to say, this article was no surprise to me. Tolerance and acceptance of the difference of others starts at home and I bet 99% of the students that participated in the “fake” prom had the backing of their parents.
I do have to say good for her that she is standing up for herself and thank whatever deity you believe in that the KKK is not as aggressive and law sanctioned as it use to be.
Kris: There's a reason I included the last song on that cd I sent – and this is part of that reason. 😦
That was an act of cowardice on the part of all the popular kids parents. (I bet it was only a couple of people and the rest went along so their kids wouldn't suffer) It was a disgusting and vile act…. all those kids should have their names put on a national hate crime register so all future colleges/employers know what kind of people they have wanting to attend/work for them. it might even show these kids 'what comes around goes around'. Especially if a college or empolyer won't take them on because of their actions. It won't be too long before they cry 'my parents made me do it' but too little to late. Unfortunately It won't stop them from being TSTL… But it might make the next bunch of hateful twats think twice.
I'm liking this veri checker thingy… I got doosug :)…. yeah I know little things… small brain and all that LOL
It's terribly sad that the kids were a part of it but worse is that this was orchestrated by adults.
Totally unbelievable and disheartening.
Unfortunately like Melissa commented, this point of view is pretty common in the South. I raised my kids to be open minded and to always treat others as they want to be treated themselves but here in the “country” there are a lot of people like those in this prom debacle.
As Chris said – young people and adult – When you think you have heard it all, something else comes to light to burst that bubble..
I have kids around that age and i know from experience – they are not up to that crap…. Live and let live…
…and I know no parent who would support this kind of thing..
Bloody shameful if you ask me..
P.s Follow the Huffington Post article – the comments are hair-raising at the list..
Chris: Yes. I think it is fairly safe to say that there were adults involved in this event as well. It does make me wonder though about the parents who didn't know and were likely horrified. *sigh*
Cecile: “It is a shame what kids do to other kids these days.” I agree and the thing is that a lot of them will (hopefully) come to regret it later in life when they have more experience.
Your daughter sounds awesome. She obviously takes after her Mum. 🙂
KC: “To treat someone differently simply due to their sexual orientation brings out the Hulk in me.”
Me too. Me too.
Jenn: Yeah. It breaks your heart a little, doesn't it.
Amora: I've been stewing about this for a couple of days and was just getting more and more angry.
“There is a poor boy going thru the same thing right now…and a whole campaign AGAINST him on facebook.”
As much as I think that the internet has a lot to offer in terms of social networking it is cyber-bullying situations like this which are unbelievably horrific. It is so sad to know that the same tool that can open doors for people who feel different (ie sexuality, disability, etc) can be the same one which slams them shut when it comes to bigotry and hate.
Tam: “The fact that the other parents likely thought this was a good idea tells you something about why the kids act the way they do.”
Unfortunately, yes. And not only that it was a GOOD idea, but that it was RIGHT. That kind of belief system is so entrenched. It does make you sad to think that it will just be perpetuated unless those kids get out and explore the world.
This pisses me off! I am literally seething and want to rip someones head off! Point me in the direction and let me go! NOW!
Matthew: I was pretty much the same. It blew me away and then I started to muttter and grumble.
Melissa: Thanks for talking about your background. Hearing this, makes me have even more admiration for Constance McMillan's fight to be true to herself. This is exactly the kind of situation I was thinking of when I went on my rant of a couple of month's ago.
Can I ask you a question – and feel free not to answer – but is there no concern in the South then for being charged with the relatively new hate crime legislation? My understanding is that whoever organised the fake prom etc could get charged under these laws.
Doosug Tish: I have a feeling that you are absolutely right. That the situation was such that even the kids and/or the parents who didn't like it felt the need to go along with it. How much more empowering it would have been had the situation was reversed. I hope someone says that to those kids and parents.
That is one of the saddest, most reprehensible things I've ever seen! The fact that adults obviously supported this farce makes me even angrier.
I've always told my students that a person doesn't have to agree with everyone, but no one has a right to be mean. Bullying never changed anyone's mind, and orientation is something that can't be changed. UGH!
On a positive note, Lance Bass, Green Day, and Cat Cora are sponsoring a gay friendly prom that the Safe Schools Coalition holds yearly in Mississippi. It's sad, though, that these kids have to have a “special” prom just to feel safe and accepted.
Lily: “Unfortunately like Melissa commented, this point of view is pretty common in the South. I raised my kids to be open minded and to always treat others as they want to be treated themselves but here in the “country” there are a lot of people like those in this prom debacle.”
Yes, it seems pretty evident that the school itself is to blame as well, which is confuzzling to me. Public schools in Oz are as far from perfect as they can be, but there are still certain things that have to be done in terms of curriculum and funding. If this happened here, I'm pretty sure heads would roll. The situation seems more autonomous in the states. Is that right?
Ingrid: That was me. Then I got angry.
EH: “When you think you have heard it all, something else comes to light to burst that bubble…”
Exactly. The world unfortunately never fails to disappoint sometimes. Thankfully the ground swell of support for this student gives hope.
Casse: Go hit that petition site via the link, hun, and kick some arse! Those people need to know how seriously wrong this is.
Eyre: I hate bullying to the power of infinity. There have been a couple of cases in Oz this year which have had the most horrific outcomes including a boy in his early teens being killed by another boy in a bullying incident. It breaks your heart that it comes to that.
The gay friendly prom looks fabulous, although as you say it is sad that students are unable to attend the proms of their own schools for various reasons. Wouldn't it be great to live in a world without bigotry.
To tell you the truth, the human race doesn't surprise me with its ability to hate. I should be shocked, but I'm not.
What disgusts me even more is that Derrick, the boy who WAS given permission to take his boyfriend to the prom, was then kicked out of home by his own parents.
I always used to think your attitude might change if it was 'one of your own', but there are so many stories like Derrick's – and you just have to wonder, what kind of person are you that you could do that to your OWN child, let alone somebody else's, like in Constance's case?
But these two kids give me hope. They are so much braver than I was at their age – I wish I could have had an ounce of their spirit.
Sean: “… you just have to wonder, what kind of person are you that you could do that to your OWN child, let alone somebody else's, like in Constance's case?”
Yes. It breaks my heart that anyone, let alone a parent, could treat a child badly for being different. The Mumma and I were talking about this over lunch and both us said how unbelievably fucking proud we would be if either of these kids were ours. How very, very brave they are.
I can't believe the lengths these children and their parents went too. What are they so afraid of?
I see how people stare when I am out with my aunt, who is moderately intellectually disabled. I've known her all my life. She is….who she is. Sometimes I think if people only took time to get to know others, they wouldn't be so quick to point and be nasty. Then again…there are always going to be those who feel better about themselves by putting others down. It makes me sick!
And I agree Kris – both children are amazingly brave. Why can't people just accept others as they are? Why do they want to force people into a mold?
And I know this is off topic, but here is a link to a recent advertising campaign in NZ. I think it's a fantastic ad:
Orannia: The baby brother is about 6' 4″ and a big boy. I get so fucking angry at the judging looks he gets from people.
“Why can't people just accept others as they are? Why do they want to force people into a mold?”
*sigh* I don't know. Putting aside how destructive this kind of hatred is, can you imagine living in a world where everyone thought and acted and looked the same?? Dear God. How boring as bat shit would that be. Embrace difference people! Open mindedness is way more fun. 🙂
Gawd, this chokes me up!
Yeah. It still makes me sad/angry.
Even if they don't get charged on Constance's behalf, my husband the teacher says the fact the special ed kids were shunted to the “official prom” instead of the real one will hang them.
You can do anything you want to the gay kids (and down here, they DO. I had to intervene to save my daughter's LIFE) but if you mess with special-ed kids, everything comes down on your head like a ton of bricks.
Angelia, I can understand that, although I think that stinks and I am especially sorry to hear that your daughter had to go through such appalling discrimination and dangerous situation of her own.
What I don't get though, is why the US' hate crime legislation wouldn't come into play more. Is it because the prevailing culture means that it just doesn't get enforced??
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“What I don't get though, is why the US' hate crime legislation wouldn't come into play more. Is it because the prevailing culture means that it just doesn't get enforced??”
In spite of the government's high-minded blab, I'm afraid the citizenry of this nation — not all of it, but far too much of it — is dumbing down at a terrifying rate and actually celebrating ignorance and provincialism. Law enforcement in any given part of the country reflects local attitudes, and politicians, being the vote whores they are, cave in to those attitudes.
I don't know if it has to do with the country's Puritan roots, or a backlash against increasing diversity, or what, but there's abundant evidence of small-mindedness in every walk of life here. It's depressing.
I bet the people attending the secret promo laughed about it, too – “Haha, imagine those losers when they see nobody's there!”. And their parents, I bet they were very self-righteous about it – “No kid of mine will be forced to accept something like that. This will teach that girl!” Makes me sick. Especially because I don't think things will change anytime soon, and this kind of horrible way of thinking is not confined to a state, a country, a continent. Not that I'm surprised, really – like others have already said, cruelty is part of the human nature, and nothing's easier that being cruel towards the ones who are considered different.
I'm trying to imagine myself in Constance's shoes and I know I wouldn't have been as courageous as she is. I really hope she'll find a place to be happy without being harassed or shunned or made the butt of callous jokes.
God, I'm still thinking about how cruel kids and teens can be. And remorseless, too. It may not be kind, but I hope life will teach them soon that they are nothing more than another leaf on a tree.
KZ: “Law enforcement in any given part of the country reflects local attitudes, and politicians, being the vote whores they are, cave in to those attitudes.”
I figured that it would be something like that. The sheriff and district attorney positions are elected too, aren't they? I've never really understood then how they could be kept 100% free of political influence if that's the case. It would make it extremely difficult even if the person had integrity.
Sara: Yes, I imagine some of those kids thought they were being hilarious.
“It may not be kind, but I hope life will teach them soon that they are nothing more than another leaf on a tree.”
I'm the same. I also wonder how, if some of them do leave the area, they possibly thing that they would ever escape this kind of event. They will be well and truly tarred and none of them even realise it.
If anyone wishes to write to either Constance or members of her school board then please go to leewindDOTorg he has put up the the names and email addys of all 🙂 He also has posted a powerful letter written by a firend of his.I shall be sending a letter of support to Constance 🙂
Thanks for letting us know, Tish. I hadn't checked out LW's site for a little while so had missed this. That letter from his friend was awesome.
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