Why include it, of course! Especially when it’s one that’s so deliciously nasty. *hehehe*
“What?!” I hear you all ask in anticipation. “Kris, what could it possibly be?”
With that title isn’t it obvious, my sweet innocents?
Have I read it in a book before ? Yep. Can I remember what that book was? Errr… *hangs head*
Let’s face it, though, when you think of foreskins in the same context as m/m erotica and romance, what author immediately springs to mind??
I’m not sure if I’ve ever recovered from reading about foreskin cheese in one of his books. To be quite honest, rimming looks pretty good in comparison to that. *shudders*
What about you? What are your foreskin experiences?
The fictional ones plz, peeps. I run a clean blog here.
Kris + Books = Good. *Sometimes*. 
Oh, the fictional ones. I've heard it called space docking, never read about it though and have never read Bobby Michaels but from references I've heard made I don't think he's really my thing. I did see a porn once where they poured champagne in and used it like a glass. LOL Actually it was an incredibly romantic porn, not counting drinking from the foreskin cup.
That's about it. Sometimes it's mentioned in books, sometimes not.
Cock docking….actually, outside of porn and Nifty, haven't seen any stories with that theme. Huh.
Heh. Most of the men in m/m books don't have foreskins cos it's like unclean or something – which in actual fact isn't true, unless you never wash and then we're back to the whole 'cheese' thing *gag*. This surprised me coming from Britain where it's more unusual not to have a foreskin if you're a man.
I'd never heard of 'cock docking' until just now. You learn something new every day, especially if you visit here on a regular basis. Sounds painful, actually.
I don't like the idea of foreskins in fiction or in real life. Insensitive, I know. SORRY. I'm American. We're very narrow minded when it comes to sex.
Boys are unsanitary creatures, and just the idea of the nasty grime that could lurk under that fold of skin makes me a little queasy.
Bobby Michaels introduced me to the horrors of dick cheese (and unwashed jockstraps *gag*), and I haven't forgotten my reaction. I avoid all scenes involving smegma and grime now.
Docking…well…I don't want to read that kind of scene, but I have no problem with its practice in real life. It doesn't exactly involve me, y'know? As long as I'm not the one having to touch foreskin, it's all good. LOL
Jen: In 20 years it will be more common in Canada as well. In 2003 about 14% of Canadian babies were circumcised, 3% in Quebec. This compares to the US the same year where on average it is 56% with the midwest having an rate of 78%.
I'm acutally surprised it's so high in the US. In Canada in 1998 it was 50%, so that's a big drop in 5 years. It's really frowned on here. I remember when my daughter was born in 1995, we didn't know if she was boy or girl and our Dr. said if we wanted a circumcision we'd have to find someone else to do it because she refused. That's pretty common here.
It might be a cultural thing as Jenre alluded to. Most American guys are circumcised especially if they were born before 1970 or so. At least, I think so. Can't speak from extensive personal experience, ha, ha! In m/m, I don't run across it that often, and usually it's just a brief glance with a character noticing someone else is or isn't like him.
wow and I thought the golden showers was your high point.
No comment on this.
Further comment – Tam, I think it's a trend over here in the U.S. that is starting to decline as well. It's less common with the newer generation, the sons and grandsons of hippie moms who feel that the poor kid's foreskin should be left alone, ha, ha!
WTH! “Foreskin cheese” Thanks for putting that image in my head before bedtime Kris! Argh!
Most heroes I've read about were circumcised, so no foreskin play there. I wouldn't mind reading about it though as long as it's not about cheese 😉
Overhere, in the Netherlands, most guys aren't circumcised, so you get used to that!
🙂
Janna
::shudders:: foreskin cheese. eew. Of all the things Bobby Michaels put in Jock Dorm, that was probably the one I could have done without. I could deal with all the rest – even the stinky jock strap. 🙂
As for clock-docking. My first reading experience with that was actually from a Starsky & Hutch fanfic.
And I just realized I'm saying eeew to foreskin cheese when I have a 19 month old who is uncircumcised. I just hope my good hygiene teachings eventually pay off.
ugh. I can't spell. Not clock-docking. You know what I meant!
Clean blog? Where? Who??
Um, yeah, the Bobby Michaels references… eww.
Really? I can't remember any others, beyond just the reference to someone being uncut or having a foreskin and then how sensitive it was.
Tam: Champagne? Ummm. I guess it's no different from drinking, licking, sucking champagne off someone else's body. I guess…
Emmy: *snort* Okay. I seriously need to read Nifty. I'me feeling very left out.
Jenre: “You learn something new every day, especially if you visit here on a regular basis.” I think you should start calling me Miss Kris, Jen. 😉
“Most of the men in m/m books don't have foreskins cos it's like unclean or something” Val and Tam have a good point about it being a cultural thing. In the stories I've read where one of the protags is cut and the other not there seems to be a fascination and erotic pleasure about the differences.
JenB: You're narrow minded? You?
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Tam & Val: I've not idea about the trends here in Oz.
Val: So both you and Jen haven't really come across it in m/m. I agree that it's not prevalent, but it's definitely out there. As I said to Jen, in my reading there is usually a big deal made of one of the guy's being cut or not.
Katiebabs chook: Wuss. 🙂
Welcome Janna!! *mwahahahahaha!*
“Overhere, in the Netherlands, most guys aren't circumcised, so you get used to that!”
I bet. 😉
Anesthezea: Jock huffing JenB's fave fetish. LOL. I'm tempted to read Jock Dorm just to see what it's all about. 🙂
I'm still struggling to remember what book I read the cock docking in. I can remember everything else: my eyebrows going up and then my shrugs when the guys seemed to be getting off on it, but the actual title…
“I just hope my good hygiene teachings eventually pay off.”
LOL. I'm sure that they will.
Chris: You too?? Maybe I have a gravitational pull for foreskin books. Weird.
**Head Cheese*** – and it actually smells disgusting…(dont ask**)
Bobby Micheal is like my m/m bible – so off with you hussy…
I agre with Jenre and Emmy, you never see, hear or know that there is foreskin in m/m books… and outside of nifty – nope…
I have read quite a bit of stories with this and they are all on nifty…
Kris – you need to start reading that site – it will put hair on your chest…
E.H>
Sissy…
Just letting you know that here in Oz land the trend is also not to cut. Numbers of circumsised men/boys are definitely down, probably from even when we had to make a decision about the boy child.
lol So no cock-docking in m/m books hmm?
The magazine photo I saw of it was…ummm… unusual! LOL
:o)
MsM
Mumma J: It's surprising that you had to 'make a decision' about having Kris' brother circumcised. When I had my boys the topic wasn't even brought up. As far as I'm aware the only reason for circumcision in this country is for religious reasons or if the foreskin hasn't formed properly.
EH, then what the hell am I reading where I notice it?! It has to be the gravitational pull I've got going… and no, as nosy as I am, I'm so not asking about the smell.
“Kris – you need to start reading that site – it will put hair on your chest…”
Hun, I've got Eastern European in me. There's no way I'm going anywhere near something that will encourage chest hairs to grow.
Mumma, thanks for that. I had a feeling that was the case, but couldn't be arsed checking. 🙂
MsM, yep, apparently it IS only me… this time. LOL. I think you should still include that pic in your WTF post. You could run a competition asking people what they think it is. *GRIN*
Jenre: The boy child is 32 now, so I'm going back -shit- a longish time ago. I believe that the current trend here is the same as the UK.
Kris: “MsM, yep, apparently it IS only me… this time. LOL. I think you should still include that pic in your WTF post. You could run a competition asking people what they think it is. *GRIN”
ROFL!! I didn't save the photo, I was too shocked by it and flabbergasted by how long it took me to figure out what the hell I was seeing! LOL
:o)
MsM
Oh and I meant to add that I had a blog award for you on my blog today but I see you found it! :o)
Jenre – I live in the US and I had many different responses when I told people I didn't want to have my son “cut”. Most of my family and friends were supportive, even if they didn't agree. The most interesting objections always came from complete strangers!
I was told that my son would get infected and eventually have to have surgery. I was told horror stories and cautionary tales left and right. People told me he'd be made fun of in gym class. They told me he'd grow up with a complex because he was “different” than the other boys his age.
I even had one mother in a parenting class look at me in shock as she yelled out “But..but you have to have him circumcised! You have to!”
My favorite response was from my son's nurse in the NICU: “You're not going to have him cut? That's great! He'll thank you when he grows up and is having better sex than everyone else.” lol
Oh come on Mumma, tell us what the decision was. Let's embarrass the poor dear even more. I'm sure he'd love to know we are all discussing his intactness … or lack thereof. 🙂
I do read about it in m/m, especially when one of the guys is British or some other culture. They often refer to being cut or uncut and sometimes moving the foreskin back and forth. I've just never ever read about cock-docking in m/m. Rubbing together yes, but not getting THAT close.
Here in Canada if you publicly announce you are getting your baby circumcised (like on a parenting web board) you better put on your asbestos undies because you will be flamed big-time. Mostly know I imagine it's for religious reasons now in Canada. I think Muslims circumcise as well and we have a large Muslim population.
Just for the record, some googling says about 10% of Australian babies are circumcised.
Tam – I know, I'm a terribly embarrassing Mum for him! We left him intact, as you say. 🙂 We didn't have religious reasons for doing it and the “medical” reasons people kept giving me sounded pretty bogus to me. After doing quite a bit of research I just decided to leave him as he was born.
I was surprised at the number of mothers I met who had it done to their boys just because everyone else had it done.
Now that I've embarrassed my son, can I embarrass my hubby next? He's never known, much less seen, anyone who was uncut, so I, being the ever-so-helpful and supportive wife that I am (no, really!) I found a few lovely photos on the internet to show him. I don't think he liked them as much as I did. /smirk
I haven't come across cock-docking in m/m, either. Just the one fanfic.
Considering nearly every other country in the world DOESN'T circumcise and it's so dangerous, you'd think the population of places like China and India would dropping drastically as mens dicks shrivel up and drop off due to disease and miscare. LOL Or are people saying only American men are too stupid to take care of their penis but other men in the world can handle it? It's a ridiculous logic.
Smegma.
The first time I heard that word, I was put off foreskins forever.
I think the only one I've encountered, either in fiction or real life, was on a certain Hungarian engineering student who, let's say, took something from me. Foreskins pretty much don't exist on American-born men in my age group.
But, hey, to each his own…hoodie.
P.S. Don't you dare bring this up in my interview. I'll deny having said it and accuse you of identity theft, I swear.
P.P.S. Somebody really needs to make of list of which TQ authors are best known for which kink. I'm really getting confused.
KZ: Every kink = Sean Michael
That pretty much sums it up. LOL
MsM: Darn. LOL. And, yes, I did find the award. Thankee. I figured there might've been some guilt involved for the subject of this post. 😉
Anesthezea: I love the comment from your son's nurse. LOL.
“being the ever-so-helpful and supportive wife that I am (no, really!) I found a few lovely photos on the internet to show him. I don't think he liked them as much as I did. /smirk”
ROFL!!! Meanie. I love it!
Tam: At the same time you comment, I was thinking to myself about the mocking potential of talking about the Baby Brother's circumcision. It's gonna be great. 🙂
KZ: “Don't you dare bring this up in my interview.” Course not. *bats eyelashes*
Oh, and what Tam said.
Sissy… you blabbed!
I was going to keep it a secret and not divulge to Tam.
Ummmm, what will you give me for not telling him that you told the virtuals about his you know what!!
Yes, I am admittedly narrow-minded when it comes to foreskin. >.< My husband and I have even discussed it, and we've agreed we'll have our son(s??) circumcised if we ever decide to have children. I don't think it's cruel. But yeah…in my books, I prefer them cut. I like all shapes, sizes, and shades, but foreskin just doesn't turn me on. By the way (NSFW!!): http://www.picklequeen.com/Penis-Bouquet.jpg
Oh, Tam…
American men *are* that stupid.
Mumma: You were the one who raised the BB in the first place, mate. I think you'll find that it's what you can give me.
JenB: Aww, how sweet. And they say that you don't care about me.
The things one can learn from just stalking…
**waves to Kris, hey honey**
Just popping in to see what is going on for the day!
Hope you have a great day/night!
Hey you 🙂 I see from some of your latest posts that you are practically awash in m/m and other romance at the moment. LOL.
Was this post tmi for a newbie? Blame the curiousity of MsM… and my total lack of shame. 😉
You have a good one too. 🙂
I can't get the cheese image out of my mind…. *gag*
Never tmi… Well, I guess there can be; but not where this smutty hussy is concerned! Learning a lot of new and interesting and **oh, did not know you could do that** information!
Yea, getting arrested by a group of smutty hussy followers and today I found my own tribe of men… hummm… might be all m/m… but this f is enjoying being in the middle!
Hope you have a great day!
Ha! Today's DSP Christmas thing as a fair discussion of the guy's foreskin. LOL I'm going to see it everywhere now that you've brought it to my attention.
ok, I never had a problem with reading about foreskin in fiction until I read the book “Don't Worry Momma” (yes the yaoi novel that I'm sending out) and then I got squiked. I won't spoil it for the rest of you about to read it cause, well you know gotta share the wealth, but now I'm like yuk! But as for cock docking, actually I can't really remember ever reading this one.
Cecile, I saw you had been arrested. Lucky you. 😉
Tam, LOL. Too funny.
Melissa, I think I might be a little skerrit. Let's face it some yaoi can be fascinating and gross at the same time. 🙂
Orannia, I know. 😦
Arrested and have my own tribe now! =)
See. Lucky. LOL.